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	<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/</link>
	<description>Enough Said.</description>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2131</link>
		<author>James Wright</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2131</guid>
					<description>Ben and I are making it down there that weekend (I'm already off work).

I think Drew Schnaath is interested.

Daniel, is B-Ran HammoTron going this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben and I are making it down there that weekend (I&#8217;m already off work).</p>
<p>I think Drew Schnaath is interested.</p>
<p>Daniel, is B-Ran HammoTron going this year?</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2132</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2132</guid>
					<description>Yeah.  I'll go ahead and send the facebook invite to those two... let me know who else.

I invited 2 friends from KC...haven't heard if they're in for sure though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  I&#8217;ll go ahead and send the facebook invite to those two&#8230; let me know who else.</p>
<p>I invited 2 friends from KC&#8230;haven&#8217;t heard if they&#8217;re in for sure though.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2133</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2133</guid>
					<description>I have off for work already and was planning on the dates of 23-25. Is this an open invite now? I'm not complaining but it just seems like we are getting alot of ppl going, apart from the person bringing them none of us know them. I personally don't care but, if everybody brings a friend then inevitably they will hang out almost exclusively with whom they brought so I'll want to arrange a buddy to come with me as well. I'm sure once it gets closer we'll be able to compile a list so we can see how many water craft we need. Also a suggestion can we get rafts instead of canoes this year? My buddies float on rafts and they are more stable draft shallower and you can haul more stuff. I think we all remember the soaking wet sleeping bags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have off for work already and was planning on the dates of 23-25. Is this an open invite now? I&#8217;m not complaining but it just seems like we are getting alot of ppl going, apart from the person bringing them none of us know them. I personally don&#8217;t care but, if everybody brings a friend then inevitably they will hang out almost exclusively with whom they brought so I&#8217;ll want to arrange a buddy to come with me as well. I&#8217;m sure once it gets closer we&#8217;ll be able to compile a list so we can see how many water craft we need. Also a suggestion can we get rafts instead of canoes this year? My buddies float on rafts and they are more stable draft shallower and you can haul more stuff. I think we all remember the soaking wet sleeping bags.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2134</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2134</guid>
					<description>daniel also told me at church he didn't know if he could make it he might be in mexico and jon said that he definitely couldn't

Leo
Jacob
Jimmy
Ben
Ryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daniel also told me at church he didn&#8217;t know if he could make it he might be in mexico and jon said that he definitely couldn&#8217;t</p>
<p>Leo<br />
Jacob<br />
Jimmy<br />
Ben<br />
Ryan</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2135</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2135</guid>
					<description>That was a secret for now Ryan. Thanks. :-P I'll let you all know. I should know by the end of this week. I'll check with Brandon. Brandon came last year. I think he was excited to go again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a secret for now Ryan. Thanks. <img src='http://www.vifl.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> I&#8217;ll let you all know. I should know by the end of this week. I&#8217;ll check with Brandon. Brandon came last year. I think he was excited to go again.</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2136</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2136</guid>
					<description>no big deal.  There have nearly always been new people on the trip.  I didn't know those 2 guys last year.

it's sort of tradition to do canoes... makes it more exciting.  rafts are more for booze-fests... but, I can be flexible if everyone else wants to do that.  We'd probably do a much shorter float if we do that because they travel about half the speed.

discuss!

looking forward to hanging with you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no big deal.  There have nearly always been new people on the trip.  I didn&#8217;t know those 2 guys last year.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s sort of tradition to do canoes&#8230; makes it more exciting.  rafts are more for booze-fests&#8230; but, I can be flexible if everyone else wants to do that.  We&#8217;d probably do a much shorter float if we do that because they travel about half the speed.</p>
<p>discuss!</p>
<p>looking forward to hanging with you all!</p>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2137</link>
		<author>James Wright</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2137</guid>
					<description>Yeah, we've pretty much had new people on the float trip every year.  It never turns into a "hang out with your buddy you brought" type thing.  In fact it has always been that they make new friends with everyone.  Obviously who we invite is important because they have to be someone that we can all get along with (seriously, who invited Peter Sluis that one year?) but most likely we'd all get along with any of our friends friends anyway.
I am glad that Brandon Hammond and Mark Roland and Josh McAleese are people that I've got to meet and become friends with because of the float trip.

I wouldn't be averse to going on a raft, especially since we're on a new river.  What if we do a one-day float, but we make it take 2 days?  That way we can dawdle and swim and goof off more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we&#8217;ve pretty much had new people on the float trip every year.  It never turns into a &#8220;hang out with your buddy you brought&#8221; type thing.  In fact it has always been that they make new friends with everyone.  Obviously who we invite is important because they have to be someone that we can all get along with (seriously, who invited Peter Sluis that one year?) but most likely we&#8217;d all get along with any of our friends friends anyway.<br />
I am glad that Brandon Hammond and Mark Roland and Josh McAleese are people that I&#8217;ve got to meet and become friends with because of the float trip.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be averse to going on a raft, especially since we&#8217;re on a new river.  What if we do a one-day float, but we make it take 2 days?  That way we can dawdle and swim and goof off more.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2138</link>
		<author>Drew</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2138</guid>
					<description>Sorry, guys.  I'm not coming.  I've traveled way too much this summer and can't spend the time or the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, guys.  I&#8217;m not coming.  I&#8217;ve traveled way too much this summer and can&#8217;t spend the time or the money.</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2139</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2139</guid>
					<description>noooooooooooooooooooooo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>noooooooooooooooooooooo</p>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2140</link>
		<author>James Wright</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2140</guid>
					<description>I agree with Leo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Leo.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2141</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2141</guid>
					<description>if this thing falls apart it will be the single most disappointing thing of my year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if this thing falls apart it will be the single most disappointing thing of my year.</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2142</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 20:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2142</guid>
					<description>i agree with ryan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with ryan.</p>
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		<title>By: James Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2143</link>
		<author>James Wright</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2143</guid>
					<description>Who said it's falling apart?  It's just going to be smaller than normal this year.
Don't forget that Drew Schnaath is interested in going.

What we really need to do is find out pricing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said it&#8217;s falling apart?  It&#8217;s just going to be smaller than normal this year.<br />
Don&#8217;t forget that Drew Schnaath is interested in going.</p>
<p>What we really need to do is find out pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2144</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2144</guid>
					<description>we're all rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;re all rich.</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2145</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2145</guid>
					<description>yeah, honestly i think most of us could pitch in some extra bucks to send some people on scholarship.  don't let money stop any of you...

it'll probably be about 30-40 per person depending on what we float on.  plus, food, and a few bucks for gas...depending on how you carpool, etc.

who's got tents?  and how big?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, honestly i think most of us could pitch in some extra bucks to send some people on scholarship.  don&#8217;t let money stop any of you&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;ll probably be about 30-40 per person depending on what we float on.  plus, food, and a few bucks for gas&#8230;depending on how you carpool, etc.</p>
<p>who&#8217;s got tents?  and how big?</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2146</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 22:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2146</guid>
					<description>ryan, are you not on facebook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ryan, are you not on facebook?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2147</link>
		<author>Daniel Myers</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2147</guid>
					<description>I'll come. I can maybe tangle up 100 bucks for the weekend..that's for all the stuff and gas etc. We need to figure if we want to take two cars or one large vehicle..like a van, limo, or Ryan's Beast. Drew, maybe we could support your gas to get there? Though if time and commitment is an issue, I understand that a lot too. I'm really looking forward to this. BTW, I'm designated manly man this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll come. I can maybe tangle up 100 bucks for the weekend..that&#8217;s for all the stuff and gas etc. We need to figure if we want to take two cars or one large vehicle..like a van, limo, or Ryan&#8217;s Beast. Drew, maybe we could support your gas to get there? Though if time and commitment is an issue, I understand that a lot too. I&#8217;m really looking forward to this. BTW, I&#8217;m designated manly man this year.</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2148</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2148</guid>
					<description>awe. some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awe. some.</p>
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		<title>By: leo kempf</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2149</link>
		<author>leo kempf</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2149</guid>
					<description>looks like the frog will be joining us as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks like the frog will be joining us as well!</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2150</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2150</guid>
					<description>leo
jacob
jimmy
ryan
ben
daniel
froggy

I am happy to take 4 guys and all thier gear. I have a 4 person "comfortably" tent and its called a 7 person tent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leo<br />
jacob<br />
jimmy<br />
ryan<br />
ben<br />
daniel<br />
froggy</p>
<p>I am happy to take 4 guys and all thier gear. I have a 4 person &#8220;comfortably&#8221; tent and its called a 7 person tent.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2151</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2151</guid>
					<description>oh and I am not on face book. I feel those online communities are slowly stealing out souls. myspace is how the anichrist will become popular, God told me this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and I am not on face book. I feel those online communities are slowly stealing out souls. myspace is how the anichrist will become popular, God told me this.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2152</link>
		<author>Drew</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2152</guid>
					<description>Time is the biggest issue.  I will have taken about 3 weeks off this summer after Vanita's family reunion wraps up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time is the biggest issue.  I will have taken about 3 weeks off this summer after Vanita&#8217;s family reunion wraps up.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan gelinas</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2154</link>
		<author>ryan gelinas</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2154</guid>
					<description>we've known you longer. forget that family stuff. family shmamily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we&#8217;ve known you longer. forget that family stuff. family shmamily</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Myers</title>
		<link>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2156</link>
		<author>Daniel Myers</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.vifl.net/2008/07/28/trip-dates/#comment-2156</guid>
					<description>Brandon is planning on coming too....so count him in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon is planning on coming too&#8230;.so count him in.</p>
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